lochin 33

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

lochin 33

LeeSpot · Veteran Member

Hi Terry,

Great bunch on here - loads of help available. All depends on lots of things, weight, type, prop etc. Do you have any pics and more details?

I have a 500hp Cummins QSC in my workboat. Top end just around 28kts.

Cheers,
Lee

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

Hi Lee

i WILL GET MORE INFO NEXT WEEK THANKS FOR THE REPLY

WHATS THE ECONOMY LIKE ON YOUR LOCHIN

Regards

Terry

LeeSpot · Veteran Member

Hi,

In all honesty I have to say not bad. I'd say 1 gallon per mile at cruising speeds which given the weight of the boat and fuel, plus passengers isn't that bad in contrast.

What engine does your Lochin have in at the moment? Is it sports fisherman or workboat?

Cheers,
Lee

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

Hi Lee

perkins 170 private boat just for me and a few mates but i need a sensible speed as we do long weekends fishing at weymouth and alderney

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

she is a long wheelhouse version

Martin · Senior Member

Hi Terry

Welcome to the forum.

Did you buy your new Lochin? It would be good to see some pictures and learn some of the history of your boat. There are plenty of people around here to give you advice on a whole range of issues but it does go quiet from time to time. I am just removing a Ford sabre 280 which was giving us a top speed of 14.5kn but was more comfortable about 11kn though because of the nature of our work we only do around 7.5kn (wildlife tours). From what I have learned looking at the engine options it would seem you need 350 to 450hp to get a good top speed but it does vary greatly from boat to boat. Apparently the most important aspect is the weight distribution and there seems to be a lot of different layouts of fuel tanks batteries etc. I decided on a 130hp Perkins which will be adequate for our purpose but the other option for a high speed was the Iveco (FPT) nef67 which was a max of 420hp depending on duty cycle. There are a lot of different engines available so your choice is almost limitless and often down to personal preference.

Cheers for now and good luck with whatever you decide.

Martin

dave p · Veteran Member

i was going wait untill i get the boat out and do the antifoul before i go down to weymouth

-- Edited by dave p on Sunday 4th of November 2012 09:03:12 PM

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

Hi Martin

Thanks for the reply

I do agree that the new iveco would be a good choice common rail and computerised which is something i have looked into but at around 25k its a lot of pennys on a 1984 boat but have seen a few modern engines round

10 k i will put some pics on this week

thanks again

Terry

Martin · Senior Member

Hi Terry

I never got a firm quote for that particular engine but I reckon you can knock about £10k off that price!

pm me if you need any more info.

Cheers

Martin

dave p · Veteran Member

hi terry that lochin you looked at looks clean and tidy as you say deffo needs more hp ,
i know mick gill's buckeneer has
a 330 hp iveco in it and he gets 22 knots flat out with it . not going back to a aquabell then .

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

hi dave i spoke to mick on the mob the other day his boat goes well considering the hp he has got also do you remember an aquabell called sercher that was mine she was lovley its in sweden now

Terry

dave p · Veteran Member

hi terry ,
yes i do remember the boat it was in whale island always like the boat ,
you know steve rutter who had blackbird now the inside of that was like a palace but he did ban fishing on the boat

before i had the aquabell i had a mitchell 31 ,if i remember you had one as a charter boat out of gosport .

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

Yes steve is a good mate of mine we went to florida together fishing and yes its going back a bit but i did have a mitchell 31 late 80s also do you know steve king we fish together and he comes to weymouth with me

Terry

dave p · Veteran Member

i think i know steve king he's got a osprey 26 in langstone . terry how far is weymouth from portsmouth as i was thinking of going down there next year after the turbo;s

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

steves osprey is a 24 ian dale has a 26

if you leave portsmouth an hour after h/w the tide will be well under way / in my aquabell i ran at 2000 rpm with a bit of tide was 17/18 kts and to the west shambles boy is 54 miles just over 3 hours on the way back leave 2 hours into the east tide

Terry

dave p · Veteran Member

cheers terry i thought it was furver than that ,is the fishing worth the trip down ,do you do it in one day or over two days.was thinking of going down for three days ,

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

the fishing is brilliant but the turbot and blill fishing can be good one day and bad the next when we struggle with the turbot we either go breaming or plaicing i had our new club record plaice last year 7lb 2oz all the facilities are there and it will cost £28 per night for a berth if you are staying on the boat/ there is showers provided or if you want b&b book the salors return if you want some marks thats no problem

Terry

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

we normally go friday morning if tide times are right and come back sunday it works well as you leave weymouth mid afternoon to come home so you can fish most of the day

Terry

dave p · Veteran Member

cheers terry was thinking it would be best to do it over three days ,was thinking june/ july time

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

anytime in the summer is good but apparently some of the big turbot come up april time / if you go early in the year take some maki with you as they may not be there to catch perhaps we may go at the same time

Terry

Blue Swell · Senior Member

Good Evening Terry

Welcome to the forum, if you want to find out something, this forum is a good place to start.

I see mention of an Aquabell called Searcher, was this a 27, if so it was in Sovereign Harbour Eastbourne for a while.

Best Wishes

Geoff.............

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

Hi Geoff

she was a 33 in portsmouth i restored her from stem to stern

Terry

Blue Swell · Senior Member

Hi Terry,

Sorry i missed your message the other day, often read the forum without logging in unless commenting on a post.

I too used to have an Aquabell a 27, called Maid of Anglesey, last i heard was at Ealing tide mill Southampton.

Always a difficult option with engines, as time/technology moves on there's plenty of fors against but it seems now for best efficiency larger horsepower to get Lochins on the plane with a bit of reserve when required.

Geoff

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

i have found a bobtail iveco n60 420 hp with 200 hours 12k hope to do the deal for the boat this week but if its a on i will have to increase fuel capacity and poss bigger prop shaft

Terry

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

Hi Dave

i nomally go from may onwards /do you live in portsmouth

Terry

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

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dave p · Veteran Member

hi terry i live in havant

heres mine

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

nice - live in farlington

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

i would like another aquabell but its hard finding a good one

dave p · Veteran Member

its the first aquabell i have had and i think its brilliant ,its twice the speed i had before ,better at anchour ,more comfy in cabin dont think i will be selling anytime soon

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

i went to alderney a couple of times running with the tide i used 35 gallons getting there i bought a brand new mermaid 300 hp turbo plus fantastic engine mega reliable shame they stopped making them apparently they failed emitions regs

dave p · Veteran Member

i got twin 180hp mermaids in mine and a lot people said it would juicy on fuel but its not that bad .

is it dear keeping a boat whale island

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

i am very fortunate as i have been a member for 35 years and have a deep water pontoon mooging with no tidal restictions its fountain lake angling club do you know it

Terry

dave p · Veteran Member

yer is alf still about my dad was going to buy a mitchell called gerrys 1 out of the old club and alf showed us it

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

he is still there he is pushing 83 years young and still going strong

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

bought the lochin today !

Blue Swell · Senior Member

Congratulations Terry....

seem to recognise that boat, sure it was sold last year. Lochin good, think the layouts different to mine inside.

Enjoy

Geoff..............

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

yes the chap i bought it from did buy it last year from the origional owner but it takes him 2 hours to get out the thames estuary

fingers crossed · Senior Member

Hello Terry.

Thats a great looking Lochin you have bought there, you must be very pleased!!!

Did she come from the west country originally? Plymouth maybe? I don't know if it is the same one but like Geoff said, she looks familiar and is very similar to one I remember seeing last year too. Be great to see some more photo's when you can.

all the best.

Dave.

Blue Swell · Senior Member

ive got this one!

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

Hi Dave yes very pleased i think it came from ipswich

Terry

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

Yes thats it its just had a 8k full raymarine package

Martin · Senior Member

Hi Terry

Very smart looks like it has been well cared for, what about some interior pics too so we can see the layout.

Very happy boating.

Martin

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

Cheers Martin

only got a few pics but will take some more when i get the boat back

Terry

LeeSpot · Veteran Member

Cracking boat Terry - one of the nicest I've seen for a while. A nice big commonrail block in her and you'll have one hell of a cruising boat. Our orginal choice was a Cummins 6CTA 450 continuous rated but due to a mix up Cummins sold that engine and we ended with the newer QSC series. Still happy though :)

Terry Fuggle · Veteran Member

Thanks for that

have you any idea what an economical cruse speed you have and consumption figures

if i do re engine i want to get it right

Regards

Terry

LeeSpot · Veteran Member

Hi Terry,

At 2200rpm we're cruising at between 16-18kts depending on load etc. At that we'll burn about 1 gallon per mile. Our boat is a heavy layup though, ex workboat / creels etc. We had a 350HP Ford Sabre in her and couldn't get on the plane properly. The 500 Cummins does the job nicely and for the speeds we get I can't complain at the cost of it.

Cheers,
Lee

dave p · Veteran Member

hi terry ,have you caugth any turbot this size down weymouth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htJuvRd95Ow&feature=related

has your new boat arrived yet

LeeSpot · Veteran Member

That was a quick turnaround Terry! Changed your mind already? :)