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Unusual Lochins


Further to Rogers latest posting and mention of the LOchin Leeda, I've noticed one or two unusual looking Lochin craft recently. Here's one (I believe from Holland) fora start


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Here is another!

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And another

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And yet another!

Simon, Roger any chance of enlightening us as to the origins of these varients?

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i thougth the last one look alright

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Well Simon / Roger, are you going to give us any clues as to what these non factory looking Lochins are?yawn.gif

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Here is a Slightly unusual Lochin 38 which Belongs to the Eishken Estate & is Moored in Loch Shell round 30 miles from us here on the Isle of Lewis (outer hebrides scotland). I had a chat with the skipper one day last year & he said that they bought the boat new from Lochin & she originally had twin V8 caterpillers but was re-engined couple of years ago with twin 420hp 6cly Cats. It has a hydraulic crane with a deck mounted Dory style tender. She's used for taking guests out fishing & dear stalking on their own private estate. They Also have 2x Boston Whalers with a single 250 yamaha outboard finished in the same grey livery. Nice Toys!biggrin.gif

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Here is one Lochin, hull supplied by Lochin Marine, Rye, in early 70's and finished off by Sea Cruisers of Rye who still exist. Less than a dozen were built. These photos date out of the early 70's. Don't know what engines they were running. Heard that one went to Spain for a period of time and later returned to Holland.



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That Eishkin Estate Lochin 38 looks the business Robbie!

That's another "different one" Harold! Looks very period.

I guess the others must use superstructures by "other" boatyards. It would be interesting to get the history of the others.

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Hi all,

Only just picked up your exchanges - the Lochin 33 with fly-deck was originally based at Southwold (near Lowestoft) and belonged to David Rogers who built her from a hull we supplied in the early 90's. She had a single 350hp Sabre and was sold to Alderney. I heard the owner died about 2 years ago and was sold to somewhere else in the CI's but not sure who or where.

The grey 38 (see Robbie's reply) was originally I believe the Isle of Man Sea Fisheries Patrol craft which we sold some years ago to Scotland. She was built in Rye and had the unusual feature of a RIB ramp in her ****pit. She carried about a 5m/6m RIB for investigation duties and was based in Douglas I beleive. I think she was fitted originally with Mermaid 200hp ish engines. Very nice boat.

The dutch incarnation I have not seen before but looks very similar to our Lochin 333 Motor Cruiser version of which nwe only have built one based in Sweden.

The aft cabin 33 was a Tusker and I think in either Shetland or Orkney Islands. She has the distinction of being shown at the London Earls Court Boat Show somewhere around 1978/80 I think or certainly a similar boat.

Harold has provided some pictures of a 33 built in Rye with an open backed wheelhouse. This I have seen about 3 years ago in Ireland and I think is still there. My agent in Limerick sold her and she is probably cruising the west coast somewhere.

Interesting to look at these - I have a filing cabinet full of old photo's and must sort some out one day.

Hope that helps. ST

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Cheers Simon, that throws a bit more light on it!

It would also be interesting to see some of your old photos.

Were the superstructures of these low volume or one off models built from GRP or wood?

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The fly deck 33 was originally called Eastern Dawn and she was a timber sheathed superstructure but done to a very good standard.

I shall try to post some of the old pics in time but I shall have to scan them in. Bear with me!

It is interesting that in the past two weeks a large proportion of our enquiries have been for new Lochin's and from serious minded people so who said there was a 'credit crunch' - maybe people are just fed up with the negative talk! ST

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as far as i know this is the only boat to look like this , NSRI rescue craft spirit of richards bay based in south africa 23 years old still going strong

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Hi Nemesis and welcome to the forum!

We're starting to get a truly international flavour now!

Your NSRI Rescue Craft is a very fine looking piece of kit and thanks for posting the photographs.

How do you find the Lochin behaves in your waters?

Perhaps you could let us know a bit more about her and her history.

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From my collecton of late 70's arly 80's brochures - this is mine on the crane and Aladard the first out of the yard...

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You are quite right here it is in an early brochure..

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last one, not really unusual ......out of the starboard window sea like glass,out of the port ...............not so

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Alan, is that the Aladard now in Sovereign Harbour, Eastbourne? Very nice example of the older 33s. Looks to be very well maintained.

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I,m not sure, the photo comes from one of the flyers given to my Dad by frank Nichols when we had a 38 built in 1986. I guess it could well be as the name looks to be quite unusual.

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Hi Steve,

You are correct, Aladard is in Sovereign Harbour. There are only two Lochins, including mine. Are you based there and what do you own.?

Geoff

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Hi Alan,
Aladard is certainly the first hull, although the superstructure is still made from timber sheeted by glass. They hadn't at that time made a superstructure moulding. I don't know how many timber superstructures they made. For years she was moored in Rye Harbour.

Also the first few Lochins were moulded only in Northiam where Frank Nichols had his kitchen manufacturing. Later on he moved to Rye to set up a proper boat building concern.

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Harold

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Hi Alan,

This Lochin 38 was the very first of the 38's. From what I can remember it's either built in 1983 or 84. She was built as a company demonstrator and got sold to the pilots in Boulougne, France. It replaced a much bigger boat, however the 38 was far superior.

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Hi again Alan,

Curious to know the name of your dads 38 built in 1986 and what happened to her?

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Harold

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Hi Harold,
Dad had Clanamara which was hull number 6 from Rye. As I remember it was half built as a cancelled order. He only bought it by chance as he was after a 33 and went to the yard to see what they were like.
He had it in Alderney up until his death in 1997 when we sold it to a couple of blokes on the island who re-engined her and ran trips calling her Lady Maris.
Sadly they hit a rock off Burhou in Feb this year and she was written off. She was replaced by Pelanic.
Clanamara was the most confidence inspiring sea boat I have been on.

Alan

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Alan,

When I was in August 85 at the factory I actually looked at the boat while it was being built. I was very impressed because it was so much bigger than a 33. What a shame that it has been written off.

I have attached an original factory photo for you.

Where do you keep your Lochin?

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Harold,
Thanks for that. Mine is on the Hamble down near Southampton. It was built in 1983 as Merchant navy and went into the reserve fleet for a few years before ending the last 3 at Oban. It has been quite sympathetically converted inside but retains all of the self righting systems etc. It still has the original V8 Cats both of which I have had done up. It sounds like a jet plane when you run it flat out.


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Harold,
Ipressed the send to soon I have attached one at speed and the naming ceremony at St Catherines Dock London

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Hi Simon
The grey 38 i dont think is the old sea fishery boat from douglas because she was called the Enbar with a full gdsv wheel house slightly forward to give room for the rib.The Enbar also had a flush deck.The engines were twin Ford mirage engines rated at 320hp.You sold her to a diving company in Scotland.For £96,000.If my memory is correct i think she operates out of Stromness.In proper Lochin Seas.
Regards Bob.ps I will dig out a photo.

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This is an interesting thread. Has anyone seen this one before? http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=25938, Lochin 33 Carriage Lifeboat. Any info?

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Hi gmr 86 and welcome to the forum!

I tried the link and it got me to the ships site but I couldn't find the photo. Maybe Simon will be able to throw more light on it.

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Chas

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If you become a member of ships nostalgia and search the galleries for  'Lochin 33 Carriage Lifeboat ' then you should find it. I knew of the Brede class lifeboats and the Lochin 38's at Caister and Richard's Bay but I've never seen this before. 

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That one was a 33 GDSV that was commissioned by the RNLI with what can only be described as 'sledge runners underneath to protect the sterngear. It was designed to be landed and launched from the beach. The boat was pretty much empty other than a pair of volvo engines and a wheel.
As I understand it the thing was quite sucessful but the timing of the project (late 80'sish) was wrong and it never went into service. The Mersey took its place.
The boat was sold to a private owner in Poole who made a nice job of converting it, naming it Lianda. I think he still owns it as I saw it in Poole harbour a couple of years ago. It used to go into Alderney quite regularly as with the skids it could sit upright on Braye beach .One of the boating magazines did a feature on it at the time called 'Made to measure'.

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Don't suppose anyone has a copy of the article?

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All three English Icons together, QE2, Tower Bridge, and a Lochin 33 GDSV........

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Before the deluge of emails, of course I meant Britannia not the QE2....I took the picture from the Belfast on her last trip to London before decommisioning and sale. The 33 is Thames Alarm at the time a Met Police boat. Previously it had been Alarm and owned by Dorset police.

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The Predator, the 2nd photo on this topic was my uncle's boat till a few years ago, when he sold her to some lads in Harlepool. We did run two lochin's between us, fishing the many wrecks littering the irish sea. We now have one boat, Morio Mon.

When my uncle bought Predator she had been run-down and had been used as a commercial vessel, hence the raised decks. My uncle stripped her down to the hull and rebuilt het to what she looks like in the photo. He kept the wheelhouse short to gain extra deck space,and she fished 10 anglers with ease. The extra weight from the raised decks was her downfall. We put the same engine in both boats and my lochin would outperforma his by about 4-5 knots.

My uncle later put a cummins in it before he sold her and that seemed to push her through the water, at a decent rate.



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Hi moriomon and welcome to the forum.

Predator has an unusual looking superstructure, did your uncle buy her new? Do you know if she was a special build or anything else about her history?

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Here's an unusual Lochin 33 i saw for sale on the find a fishing boat website.
You don't see many with an aft wheelhouse, but probably the ideal set-up for potting

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Hi Robbie,

As far as I know Lochin Marine only built 2 (potters). One was at the end of 1977 and she attended the London boat show on the Thames. She was powered by a Bedford 160hp from what I can remember. Lochin Marine had her for quite a while and eventually sold her to Corsica.

Then in 1989 when I was at Lochin, one of the employees had built one which was running a Sabre 212. I don't know what eventually happened to her, so I'm wondering whether the photos are of this particular boat. It looks very much Lochin built.

All the best,

Harold

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Hi, All Lochin owners, i would just like to add my 1972 lochin, named CORMORANT to the pictures.

-- Edited by pirate on Wednesday 24th of March 2010 09:42:30 PM

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The Flybridge Lochin Eastern Dawn was built by myself on my front lawn in Suffolk.
It was bought as a bare shell with frames in 1994. I put the engine beds in.The craft took me three years to complete. The superstructure was constructed from 12 m.m. marine ply which was sheathed in West epoxy and cloth. The engine was a 300 h.p. sabre perkins and the boat used to do 21 knots on a good day. On advice from Lochin I kept weight off the bow and the boat handled well. Its was a superb sea boat and handled well in the roughest of conditions. The wheelhouse was quite large and the forward cabin was equiped with 2 side bunks and a toilet compartment. I kept the craft for four years and then sold her to a chap from Alderney. The boat has since been sold on but I dont know where she is now. I kept the boat in Southwold harbour and she was one of three Lochin 33's in the harbour.
Dave R..........Suffolk

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Futher to the 'Lochin 33 Carriage Lifeboat ' someone in the RNLI told me that the Lochin 38 was considered as an Oakley/Rother class replacement prior to the Mersey class design being chosen. Any truth in this? Where drawings made or a prototype built?

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Hello Dave and welcome to the forum.

What a superb job, Ive always liked the look of Eastern Dawn. Lochin should have done a "production" version - very pretty.

Have you got anymore photos of her.

After so much work, what made you sell her after four years and what have you got now?

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Hi Chas,

Thanks for the welcome. I kept Eastern Dawn for about 4 years after building her from a hull. I had built two other boats before the Lochin from bare hulls and they were both Cygnus craft. I decided to sell Eastern Dawn because I wanted a boat with more accomodation and one suitable for the Broads. We now have a Broom 10/70 motor cruiser and keep her on the broads. Although the Broom is OK at sea you cannot even begin to compare it to the Lochin. The Lochin was a superb seaboat and I think its the best around for its size. I attach some photos and hope that they come out ok.  I dont know where Eastern Dawn is now but would like to know where she is moored now. Regards Dave R.

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Hi Dave

I would have got back earlier but I'm either having problems with this site or maybe the internet explorer program on my PC

It must have been nice to start with a clean sheet but also must have been a hell of a lot of work.

I've only been restoring mine (work on it in the winter and use it from April onwards) and thats been going on for five years now and it's still nowhere near finished.

I don't know where Eastern Dawn is now but maybe someone else on the forum will be able to throw some light on it.

Cheers

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Seen and fund this one also, I'm trying to make a deal with the present owner.

nice boatin and outside.

picture included.

Is there someone who knows more? Or the original owner? Would be nice,



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Hi Ruilenvoorgeld

Welcome to the forum, it has been pretty quiet around here for a few weeks, I guess everybody is making the most of the good weather and working on their boats. Sorry I have no information on the Lochin in question, perhaps one of our continental members will be able to help you. Looks like a nice boat though.

All the best

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Lochin 17, any ideas?

http://www.findafishingboat.com/grp-lochin-17/DB55299



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Didn't even know they made a Lochin 17. 

Perhaps Simon can enlighten us?

Cheers.

Dave.



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I saw that and wondered too!

I think somebody might just be ''hoping'' thats what it is.

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